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Some Hollow Earth theories.
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Some Hollow Earth
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[link to www.skygaze.com]
The idea that the earth possesses a hollow
interior which houses an underground civilization is an
old one the widespread religious belief in hell is one
expression of this notion-but the first American to try
to prove it was the eccentric John Cleves Symmes
(1779-1829). Symmes believed that the earth is made up
of a series of concentric spheres, with 4,000-mile-wide
holes at the north and south poles. In spite of massive
ridicule, Symmes wrote, lectured, and lobbied vigorously
for funding to mount an expedition through the poles to
the interior, where he and his party would meet the
inner-earth people and open "new sources of trade and
commerce."
To the rest of the world, Symmes is
remembered, if at all, as the inspiration for Edgar
Allan Poe's early science-fiction tale of a hollow
earth, The Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym (1838). Yet
Symmes was a pioneer of sorts, a man who encouraged
generations of independent thinkers to imagine a new
earthly geology and to dream of a fabulous race which
secretly shares the planet with surface
humanity.
Among the first to be infected was
Symmes's own son Americus, who kept in touch with other
hollow-earth disciples and in 1878 published an
anthology of his father's lectures. By this time even
the spirit world had picked up on the theme. In 1871
medium M. L. Sherman brought out The Hollow Globe, based
on supposed communications from the dead. H. P.
Blavatsky, founder of an influential school of occultism
called Theosophy, wrote of the hollow earth in two
classic works, Isis Unveiled (1877) and The Secret
Doctrine (1888). Frederick Culmer weighed in with The
Inner World in 1886, and exactly 20 years later William
Reed released his The Phantoni of the Poles. In a 1931
book, Lemuria: The Lost Continent of the Pacific, H.
Spencer Lewis added a new ingredient to the mix when he
reported that remnants of a super race dwell within
Mount Shasta in northern California.
Late in the
nineteenth century a religion based on hollow-earth
doctrines came into being under the leadership of Cyrus
Teed (1839-1908). Teed claimed to have been contacted by
no less than the Mother of the Universe, who imparted
some important news: he was to be the savior of the
world. Teed founded a utopian community, based in Fort
Myers, Florida, and dedicated to "Koreshanity,"
according to which the "universe is a cell, a hollow
globe, the physical body of which is the earth; the sun
is at the center. We live on the inside of the cell; and
the sun, moon, planets and stars are all within the
globe." In other words, the universe is inside
out.
Less radical, relatively speaking, was a
1913 book, A Journey to the Earth's Interior, by
Marshall B. Gardner, who returned to the Symmes model of
the hollow earth (though speaking ill of his mentor at
every turn). Gardner thought there was an interior sun,
though it was not the sun. This sun, 600 miles in
diameter, gave the underworld a pleasant climate,
allowing its inhabitants to live in tropical
splendor.
By this time the hollow earth concept,
though disparaged by scientists as preposterous and
physically impossible, had taken a firm hold in the
imagination of many occultists. The next major occult
figure to pick it up was Guy Warren Ballard (1878-1939),
whose Unveiled Mysteries (1934), written under the
pseudonym Godfre Ray King, told of an extraordinary
experience the author had undergone four years earlier.
Ballard wrote that while on an outing at Mount Shasta,
he met a stranger who gave him a creamy liquid to drink.
Once he had done so, Ballard saw the man as he "truly"
was: Count Saint Germaine, an eighteenth-century occult
figure who, Blavatsky had written, lived on as an
immortal Tibetan Master.
Ballard said he met the
count many times after that and in his company took
numerous out-of body tours under the earth, where he
explored a beautiful world of scientific and spiritual
marvels. In time he even started meeting space people
under the earth. Under Wyoming's Grand Teton Mountains
he attended a conference with 12 Venusian masters. He
told comparable tales in a follow-up book, The Magic
Presence (1935). and until his death he, his wife Edna,
and son Donald toured the United States and spoke to
large audiences of seekers who soon joined the Ballards'
occult group, The "I AM" Activity.
The Shaver
mystery
Until Richard Sharpe Shaver came along,
nearly all nineteenth- and twentieth-century hollowearth
proponents spoke of the inner world's inhabitants as
members of an advanced, benevolent race whom it would be
desirable for human beings to meet and befriend. Shaver,
however, had another story to tell. Shaver technologized
hell.
In September 1943, in Chicago, Amazing
Stories editor Ray Palmer read a letter from a Barto,
Pennsylvania, reader who claimed to know of an ancient
alphabet from Lemuria, a continent said to have sunk in
the Pacific Ocean thousands of years ago, taking a
mighty civilization with it. (In fact, the idea of
"Lemuria" was invented in the nineteenth century, first
by biologist Ernst Haekel as a hypothetical home for the
original Homo sapiens, then elaborated by Blavatsky in
her imaginative "history" of the human race. There is no
geological or biological evidence that such a place ever
existed.) Palmer reprinted the alphabet in the January
1944 issue, and soon he and the reader, Shaver, were
corresponding regularly.
Shaver alleged that for
years he was tormented by evil creatures known as
"deros"-short for "detrimental robots" (who were not
robots as the term is ordinarily understood but "robots"
in the sense of being slaves to their passions). Deros
were the degenerate remnants of the "Titans," the people
of Lemuria, who 12,000 years ago were forced to escape
into great caverns under the earth to avoid deadly
radiation from the sun. (Some Titans, however, stayed on
the surface, adjusted, and became the present human
race. Others fled to distant planets.) Deros--demons in
all but name and close to it even there-were sadistic
idiots who had access to the advanced Titan technology,
which they used to increase sexual pleasure during the
orgies to which they were addicted. They also used the
machines in marathon torture sessions on kidnapped
surface people and also on the "teros" (integrative
robots, who were not robots but good Titans who, though
vastly outnumbered, were fighting the deros); they also
employed the machines to cause accidents, madness, and
other miseries in the world above the caves.
Soon
Amazing and its companion pulp Fantastic Adventures were
filled with exciting and terrifying tales of the
underworld. Most of these stories bore Shaver's by-line,
but Palmer was writing them. The first, "I Remember
Lemuria!", all 31,000 words of it, appeared in Amazing's
March 1945 issue, and in the introduction Shaver told
readers of his vivid memories of life as "Mutan Mion,
who lived many thousands of years ago in Sub Atlan, one
of the great cities of ancient Lemuria!"
A flood
of letters crossed Palmer's desk, some from individuals
who claimed they, too, had met with the deros and barely
lived to tell Amazing about it. Chester S. Geier, one of
the magazine's regular contributors, started the Shaver
Mystery Club as a way both of handling the mail and of
"investigating" the "evidence" for the deros. Palmer and
Shaver had caused quite a stir.
Not all readers
were happy about it, however. Many were furious;
convinced that some sort of swindle was afoot, they
feared that the Shaver mystery would make all
science-fiction fans look like fools or worse. By 1948
their protests led Ziff-Davis, Amazing's parent company,
to order the series stopped.
After co-founding
Fate with Curtis Fuller in 1948, Palmer left Ziff-Davis
and moved to tiny Amherst, Wisconsin, to produce his own
magazines, notably Flying Saucers and Mystic (later
Search), which regularly featured Shaver material. In
1961 he started The Hidden World, a series of magazines
in tradepaperback format, and over the next three years
reprinted Shaver's original articles and ran new
contributions from a diminishing band of
enthusiasts.
Shaver died in Arkansas in November
1975, Palmer in Florida two years later.
Other Hollow
Earthers
Another Amazing reader who claimed to have
met the deros was Maurice Doreal (born Claude Doggins).
Like Ballard, he said he was friends with the Masters
who lived inside Mount Shasta, though unlike Ballard he
said they were from Atlantis, not Lemuria. According to
him, the Atlanteans and the Lemurians lived in great
caverns under the earth and regularly visited, and
received visits from, other star systems. His own occult
group, the Brotherhood of the White Temple, was
headquartered in the Pleiades and involved in complex
interstellar diplomacy and warfare, which Doreal
detailed at length in his various writings.
W. C.
Hefferlin wrote Amazing about his adventures in Rainbow
City, an abandoned extraterrestrial metropolis under the
Antarctic ice. Though its inhabitants were long gone,
they had left their advanced technology in place.
Hefferlin's account of the space people's secrets failed
to impress those readers who knew something about
science; they wrote to jeer at the Rainbow City man's
elementary errors, causing Hefferlin to drop out of
sight for a year. He reappeared under the sponsorship of
Borderland Sciences Research Associates, an
occultoriented group headquartered in Vista, California.
In various BSRA publications Hefferlin and his wife
Gladys related that Rainbow City's inhabitants were a
race that had settled on Mars to escape the
evil
Snake People. When the atmosphere of Mars
became unbreathable, they emigrated to earth and settled
in seven great cities (Rainbow City being the greatest
of all) on the continent of Antarctica, then a tropical
paradise. Unfortunately, the Snake People found out
where they were and attacked, scattering the settlers
all over the earth and, incidentally, tipping the earth
over on its axis, which is how Antarctica got to be such
a frigid place.
Rainbow City was revived in 1951,
in Robert Ernst Dickhoff's self-published Agharta: The
Subterranean World, and again in 1960, in Rainbow City
and the Inner Earth People, by Michael Barton, writing
as Michael X. Barton also revived the Shaver mystery,
reporting that Venusians and Masters were allied in a
struggle to wipe out the deros. He further claimed to be
receiving psychic communications from the long-deceased
Marshall Gardner, who enthusiastically endorsed Barton's
book.
Far and away the most popular of all such
books was The Hollow Earth (1964), by Raymond Bernard,
the pseudonym of Walter Siegmeister. Siegmeister was a
strange character who had operated on the fringes of the
occult scene since the 1930s, promoting assorted
enterprises such as a South American utopian colony
(which the U.S. Post Office concluded did not exist) and
publishing his bizarre theories about sexual intercourse
(which he believed to be unhealthy) and the male sex (a
mutation that ought to be eliminated). The Hollow Farth
contributed little new to the inner-earth legends and in
fact quoted at length from nineteenth-century texts on
the subject; the rest of the book focused on Ray
Palmer's ruminations as well as speculations about the
alleged conspiracy to hide the truth about the hollow
earth, flying saucers, and pole holes. Yet the book sold
well, went through numerous printings, and introduced
many readers to the subject.
Shaver's version of
the inner earth dominated Secret of the Ages, a 1974
book by Brinsley le Poer Trench (later Lord Clancarty).
According to Trench, an occult-oriented saucer
enthusiast, evil innerearthers regularly kidnapped
surface people and brainwashed them into becoming their
agents. Now, he said, the "ground work has. . . been
prepared for a takeover of this planet by those who live
inside it."
Nazis inside the Earth
Some
hollow-earth believers exhibit not just fascination with
but open sympathy for Nazi Germany. The chief figure in
the Nazi hollow-earth movement is a Toronto man named
Ernst Zundel, who writes under the name Christof
Friedrich. Zundel operates a clearinghouse for Nazi
materials and contends, as do other neo-Nazis, that the
Holocaust never took place. In UFOs-Nazi Secret Weapons?
(1976) he claimed that when World War II ended, Hitler
and his Last Battalion boarded a submarine and escaped
to Argentina; they then established a base for advanced
saucer-shaped aircraft inside the hole at the South
Pole. When the Allies learned what had happened, they
dispatched Adm. Richard E. Byrd and a "scientific
expedition--in fact an army-to attack the Nazi base, but
they were no match for the superior Nazi
weapons.
To Zundel the Nazis were "outer earth
representatives of the 'inner earth'." This in his view
accounted for their racial superiority. In 1978, with
the publication of his Secret Nazi Polar Expeditions,
Zundel solicited funds for his own polar expedition, for
which he planned to charter an airliner with a large
swastika painted on its fuselage. The swastika not only
would bear witness to Zundel's ideological loyalties but
also let the inner-earthers know that their visitors
were friendly.
Around the same time, an
expedition to the opposite pole, the northern one, was
being planned by Tawani Shoush of Houston, Missouri.
Shoush, a retired U.S. Marine Corps pilot and head of
the International Society for a Complete Earth, wanted
to fly a dirigible through the pole, where he and his
companions would meet the "Nordic" inner-earthers and
possibly join them permanently in their realm. "The
hollow earth is better than our own world," he told
Chicago Tribune columnist Bob Greene (October 31,1978).
Though he denied harboring Nazi sympathies, his
stationery prominently featured a swastika. Neither
Zundel's nor Shoush's expedition ever got off the
ground, literally or figuratively.
An
unambiguously pro-Nazi work, Norma Cox's self-published
Kingdoms Within Earth (1985), held that an international
Zionist conspiracy has hidden the truth about the hollow
earth as part of a plot to enslave the human race.
Identical themes figure in literature published by
Cosmic Awareness Communications of Olympia, Washington.
The organization claims to have its information from
spirit beings who channel through the group's
representatives. | |
stgeorge
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5/16/2006 6:57 AM |
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Seen caverns,some immense
in size with waterfalls in the distance.The Visitors use
natural caverns or create their own.I don't know where
they get this concentric circle stuff.
The "central
Sun" is the Earth's own fusion core.All planets started
off as proto suns. | |
stgeorge
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5/16/2006 6:59 AM |
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I am not from some fringe
group.Many abductees report taken
underground. | |
Craw
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ID: 83159
5/16/2006 7:05 AM |
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Science tells us that this
is all garbage and the Earth is solid. But is it really.
Do you think tptb would want the sheeple to know what is
really under there. I doubt
it. | |
DrPostman  
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5/16/2006
7:21 AM
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All the claims I have ever
seen made
about this have been debunked on quite
a
few sites, but the best so far is
here: [link to www.seawana.com]
 and
always will be
"Normalcy
is returning to Iraq."
-- George W. Bush, on the
third day
of a new wave of violence
Can't PM? Feel free to email me
at
DrPostman(at)gmail.com | |
Halcyon
Dayz
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5/16/2006 7:27
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"Science tells us that this
is all garbage and the Earth is solid."
There
some pretty compelling evidence for that.
Look here
> [link to
upload.wikimedia.org]
From here > [link to en.wikipedia.org]
And
that's just one thing.
An idea is not responsible for the people who
believe in it.
The
world did not end in 2003. On GLP everyday is Doomsday.
So much bunk, so little time...
"To defy the
authority of empirical evidence is to disqualify oneself
as someone worthy of critical engagement in a dialogue."
- Tenzin Gyatso
"Entia non sunt multiplicanda
praeter necessitatem" - William of Ockham
"The
truth maybe out there, but lies are inside your head" -
Terry Pratchett
Get the facts, examine the
evidence, and think for your
self!
"HALCYON DAYS STOP BEING A
DIPSHIT ALL YOUR LIFE YOU MORON" - Anonymous
Coward | |
stgeorge
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5/16/2006 6:02 PM |
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The Earth is NOT completely
solid.There are natural caverns all over the place.
Pockets of oil,pockets of natural gas.That is NOT
solid.
Molten magma which FLOWS according to dynamics
we are not sure of.But it is not everywhere at the same
depths. | |
DrPostman
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5/17/2006
3:24 AM
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stgeorge, you are talking
about just the
crust
there.
and
always will be
"Normalcy
is returning to Iraq."
-- George W. Bush, on the
third day
of a new wave of violence
Can't PM? Feel free to email me
at
DrPostman(at)gmail.com | |
Anonymous
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5/17/2006 3:26 AM |
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I need more solid
information! | |
unknown_element
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5/17/2006 4:26 AM |
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you mean HOLLOW
information! | |
Anonymous
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5/17/2006 6:18 AM |
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If you tap on the earth
with a hammer, will it sound
hollow? | |
c.f.
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5/17/2006 6:41 AM |
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Here's some "hollow
information" (my specialty)...
Imagine this for a
moment, we ARE inside the Earth right now and the "Big
Blue Marble" isn't actually Earth as seen from space,
but in reality is the sky above us. The sun could be
contained inside a liquid/gas sphere of sorts and it's
not the Earth turning, it's the sun/complete sphere/big
blue marble...and the sun either has a dark-side or a
light blocking medium of sorts that rotates with it
which starts as pretty colors and quickly falls to
complete darkness from our point of view at dusk/night.
It only looks like the sun rises above and falls below
the horizons because of the optical effect of the "space
sphere" (actually just a liquid/gas bubble inside the
Earth remember). It sure does explain gravity easier. (I
haven't worked out the various spin ratios within the
sphere itself, so I can't drop the serious planetary
cycles and constellation knowledge on ya'll quite
yet...the whole moon thing is kinda tricky too.)
The real question now that the truth is out,
is...what will you see if you dig deep enough to reach
the outer surface of the planet?
(Disclaimer: I
do not beleive nor do I support the above theory, even
if it turns out to be 100% completely true c.f., C.F.
Inc. [including both domestic and Caribean subsidiaries
of C.F. Inc. as well as it's employees and their
dependants] will deny fore-knowledge and not be held
responsible nor liable for ever even coming up with
something as incredibly stupid as the theory in
question.)
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stgeorge
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5/17/2006 6:44 AM |
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Yes I meant the crust has
hollows in it.Nowhere did I say the core was
hollow.
Primitive peoples tried to figure out the
origins of the Visitors or Elementals and were just told
"beneath the ground" or "in a hollow underground",and as
usual someone mistook this to say that the ENTIRE world
was hollow.
"The Hollow Mountains" was another
expression,where the "King of the Earth"
dwells.
Mystic Lobsang Rampa tells of his childhood
experiences in Tibet of being shown these ancient
tunnels that seemed to go on and on.Until one was
blocked ,and he was told they are not allowed to proceed
further. | |
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