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From: Steven Hutchins
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WOW hope this wakeing up early in the morning and looking through my window and seeing this sort of thing don,t happened again.
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From: Steven Nelson
When I was
young, I'm not certain precisely when, I had a very peculiar Recurring dream: It
was the fourth of July. We had set up fireworks in the backyard, and my father
was holding some sort of barbecue. A number of obviously dream-like elements
mark this as a dream. For example, a pig, which I had treated as a pet in the
dream, was cooked, then came back to life. I crawled to a neighbour’s yard-- a
huge, grassy field. I saw flashing lights coming from the area, which I
interpreted as fireworks. As I emerged from the clearing, I could see that the
lights came from a huge UFO, which
hovered over the clearing
at approximately treetop level. It was bright and multicoloured. Next I was
rising in a beam of light. At the end of the light, there was a face. After so
many years, I can't tell you what the face looked like, except that the skin was
pale, perhaps grey, and the mouth was a slit. When I saw the face, I would
always feel intense terror and wake up. The oddest part about this whole affair
is that I'm CERTAIN that what I just described was a dream. None of the classic
physical signs occurred: no disturbances in the grass, no peculiar wounds, no
midnight nosebleeds, no notable periods of missing time. At the time, I was
pretty sure that I
had got it from watching
'Close Encounters' and seeing Star Trek.
Would anyone care to tell
me anything about my dream? What is, in your opinion, the likelihood that
visitors abducted me? Or was I just scared by the
fireworks?
Steve
APRIL 1985.
I've never committed this account to writing until now, since it has always
seemed very 'personal' to me.But before another decade passes I suppose I should
enter it into the record. Peter Gutilla, metaphysical teacher, researcher and
psychic in southern California, thus begins his moving account of an encounter
that portends some sort of return visit-by hidden observers who seem to have
quite a
lofty bag-of tricks!. It was near 1 a.m. on the
morning of April 15, 1975. After a meeting in Los Angles, I was driving home
alone of the Santa Ana Freeway, heading Southeast in a small, dark blue, 1959
Mercedes coupe. The sky was clear and the weather moderate. A few miles past the
L.A. interchange, I'd just lit a small cigar a friend had given me when a very
clear voice popped into my head, saying: "Is that a weapon?. Before I go on, I
should emphasise that after years of working with psychics, not to mention my
own ESP experience since childhood, my reaction to things inward had become more
than a little casual. So I replied in a perfunctory way, 'No, this isn't a
weapon' and then went on to describe the act of smoking, ending with: 'Who wants
to know?. Immediately I looked to the Southwest sky on my right, out the front
windshield. There, at about a 50-degree angle and moving with me at what seemed
to be the same speed, was a ruby-red light travelling in an up/down, wave-like
motion.
(Mentally I can 'see' that light in my mind as
vividly as when I saw it that day.) I 'knew' it was a UFO - not an aeroplane or
helicopter with a running red light, even though I was unable to distinguish an
outline that would indicate a solid object."
Intrigued, I
asked: ' Are you following me?' The answer came, 'yes.' I slowed to the right
lane of the freeway and the light slowed immediately, doing this several
more
times as I repeated the manoeuvre to see if it would
follow my lead. Although I was calm at this point, I felt a growing anticipation
which prompted me to urge the light to stay with me since I planned to exit the
freeway a few miles ahead.
The light remained steady
in brightness and continued its wavy flight alongside my car, seeming to slow
down and follow my turn as I left the freeway at Valley View Street
in
La Mirada. I drove into an abandoned filling station
(closed, windows boarded) and parked. Now I could vaguely discern an oblate,
circular shape surrounding the light, which had stopped a few hundred feet above
a huge industrial lot, across the street from me to the south. The area directly
below the object was completely dark with no cars anywhere around except some
sparse traffic on the freeway behind me. The irony of it was that to the
object's right and below was a restaurant packed with people, their only view
outside being a large window facing the freeway, in the opposite direction from
the hovering object. I remember thinking, 'If they only knew what's hanging over
their heads!. Stepping out of the car, I stood facing the
completely
silent object. I waved my arms several times and the
red light blinking correspondingly, convincing me all the more that it was
indeed focusing its attention on me, and coincidentally in the same place at the
same time. I repeated the mental message: 'What do you want?. Here an odd thing
happened. For a quick moment I felt myself 'switch' to the object, and that's
the only way I can describe it - a switching of positions. In the space of a few
seconds, I was inside the object looking out of a bubble-like window at myself
standing near my car! There was no physical sensation
whatsoever,
and I can only compare it to an out-of body experience - but one that was clear
and obvious - nothing dream-like or imaginary about it. Following this, the
object swayed back and forth several times in a kind of pendulum motion, still
soundless and in the same position. Here, I remember taking notice of a
'buzzing' sound in my head which had increased in intensity, to the point of
distraction. I'd
heard this sound before
over the years, but never quite as intense. I glanced at my watch. About 15
minutes had elapsed from the time I'd left the freeway. Mentally, I said 'I'd
like to see your craft. Can you turn more lights on?. Instantly port and
starboard lights blinked on momentarily, lighting up the entire body of the
object. The lights blinked on and off for only a few seconds, but it gave me
enough time
to see its disc shape, and that it was greyish in
colour and maybe 45-50 feet in diameter. With the blinking lights off, the red
light glowed steadily, swaying from side to side. Only a minute or so had passed
when I heard the noisy clatter of what I assumed to be a police helicopter
approaching from the west, shining its intense spotlight to the ground
intermittently. I said to myself, 'Oh no - they're going to meet head on and I
don't have a camera!' As the helicopter approached, I thought for sure it was
going to hit the object, but strangely, the aircraft passed very near the UFO,
apparently unaware of its presence!. The helicopter flew in a broad circle
slightly south of the UFO, shining it's spotlight to the ground and seemingly
taking no notice of the object whatsoever. As the helicopter wandered about,
gradually fading in the distance, I couldn't help but wonder if somehow the UFO
occupants were able to selectively choose who saw them. I got back into my car,
driving around the corner and into an industrial lot. The object pivoted slowly
as if to keep itself oriented to my change of position, a move I could see
clearly as I entered the darkened area. I stepped from the car and sent the
thought: 'Can you land? I'd like to meet
with you.' A few seconds
passed and the answer came, 'No, we cannot - we are being watched... we will be
back'. I recall being both disappointed and confused.
Being
watched? Maybe it was risky for them to come in low
over populated areas. But why hadn't the helicopter seen them?. Being watched by
whom? Their own people? Were others watching from the ground, or could they have
been referring to radar, etc? At any rate, the object seemed to shrink in size
to a star-like pinpoint of bluish light. It moved westward in the direction of
the Pacific and was gone. Over 10 years have passed since the incident, and not
a day has gone by that I haven't thought about it. It has never left me.
Although it all took place in a brief span of time, I know something significant
happened; something simple and profound. Since then, I haven't looked at the
night-time sky without thinking I can hear a faint humming sound
that
invariably brings to mind those parting words,
'...we will be back.
June 1 1988
Editors
description: This abduction in the Hudson Valley area of New York, is unique in
that it describes the use, by the aliens, of a force field in the home, along
with a special hand held tool that gives off a green light, which enables them
to open up the field and pass through. It also contains a description of a
classic case of a nose implant, and also the involvement of members of a family.
By. Philip J. Imbrogno
Over the past five years
the New York, New Jersey and Connecticut area have been the scene of a massive
number of UFO sightings. The numbers of reports are so great that I believe this
area has the highest number of raw UFO sighting reports in the entire world.
These reports are documented in my book NIGHT SIEGE THE HUDSON VALLEY UFO SIGHTS
which I co-authored with the late Dr. J. Allen Hynek and Mr. Bob Pratt. I have
been asked over the years by many UFO researchers if
there
have been any close encounter-abduction type cases
in the Hudson Valley. My answer to most was no. Only to few did I admit that
there were abduction cases and plenty of them. This denial of such cases was at
the request of Dr. Hynek since he wanted NIGHT SIEGE to be a documentation of
the many UFO reports in the Hudson Valley.D. Hynek also wanted to keep these
cases quiet until we had more data about the sightings in the area. With so many
reports over the years and with the sighting still continuing it was only a
matter of time before the growing number of Abduction cases in the Hudson Valley
had to be dealt with. To this date I have been contacted by at least 75 people
who feel as if they had more than a sighting. Of the 75 there are 25 that would
be suitable for further study. Of these twenty five ten come from professional
backgrounds. All do not want any type of publicity. I will explore two of these
cases in this article. At the witnesses request, I have changed their names to
protect them. I would also like to inform the reader that Whitley Strieber,
author of the best selling book COMMUNION experiences took place in the Hudson
Valley area. Since the
publication of his book
many people have come forward with incredible stories, people who would
otherwise would have kept silent. On July 2 1987 I received a call from a 36
year old woman from Toms River New Jersey who I shall call Gail. Gail was very
troubled on the phone and insisted that she talk to me about a UFO related
experience
that she had. During the last part of June (1987) as
she was lying down on her bed, she felt some what uneasy as if someone was
watching her. The time was Ten PM. She then heard a voice say" We have come for
you..You will not be hurt." She then realised that her entire body was paralysed
and that she could only move her eyes. Gail was lying on her back and noticed
that three beings stood in the doorway to her bedroom. She was alone in the
house at the time, but does live there with her
seventeen
year old daughter who was away visiting her father in
Croton
Falls N.Y. Gail is divorced. Three beings were
dressed in something that looked like tightly fitting jump-suits and stood in a
single row, one behind the other. The light in the hall was dim, and she could
not see their features. She noticed they were about five feet tall with very
long arms. The leader, according to Gail seemed to have a problem getting into
the room. It was as if some type of invisible shield was blocking his way. He
lifted up his hand and pressed them against the invisible
shield.
The leader then took some type of rod out from a
side pocket and turned the bottom of it. The rod then glowed with a green light
and he passed it over the doorway area. They then walked into the room without
any effort. As they entered the room still in a single file she noticed that
they had large heads and eyes that looked like a cats which wrapped around their
heads. She never heard them talk but heard all kinds on buzzing noises in her
head when the leader communicated with the others.
Gail tried
to scream but could not, she could only move her eyes. The leader placed himself
on her right side and then one of them went to the foot of the bed and the other
on the left side of the bed. The beings on each side of her then placed their
hands under her head and raised it up. She then noticed that the one on her left
took a tube of what like like a narrow roll of white cotton and started pushing
it up her left
nostril. At that moment she felt extreme pain in her
head and then started to lose consciousness. She felt as if she was falling from
a great height, then she does not remember anymore. The next thing she recalls
is waking up at 8am with a very bad
headache. As she walked
to the bathroom her nose (both nostrils started to bleed. She felt as if
something was stuck up her nose, but nothing was there. She looked in the
bathroom mirror and noticed her nose was swollen and puffy. She she noticed a
rash on her neck, legs and slightly on her arms. She had hoped that the
experience from that last night was a dream and tried to block it out of her
head. When her daughter arrived home that night she told her about what
happened. Gail told me that before
she even finished with
her story her daughter started shaking and then told her that on the same night,
about the same time she and her father were followed by a UFO on route 116 near
Croton Falls New York. She described to her mother a large dark craft triangular
in shape that paced the car for five minutes above tree top level. I found this
report very interesting since Croton falls is near the border of Westchester and
Putnam Counties in New York and that loney route has been the site of more than
one Close Encounter over the past five years. I also found it interesting that
both mother and daughter had a experience with the paranormal at the same time.
There is more to this case than meets the eye. The daughter and father according
to my findings may have had as much as thirty minutes missing time. If this is
so and if both were abducted then the experience happened to father, mother and
daughter at the same time!. Gail's rash and headaches continued for a few days
then disappeared. I plan to have Gail undergo hypnosis in the near future by a
certified psychologist. The story does not end here. Several weeks latter I
received a call from Gail telling me that it happened again. She said "Those
creatures came back the same time and they did the same thing". She continued:
"It was as if I was watching a movie of the first time
they came,
they did exactly the same thing. Including having trouble getting into the
doorway to the bedroom. My daughter was once again away visiting her
father."
This case is still under study, but initial findings
indicate that both Gail and her daughter may have a history of interactions with
the intelligence behind the UFO phenomenon.
AUTHOR: Don Sudduth
There is a
certain sense of stability in the physical world that most of us take for
granted. However, in the current realm of UFO abduction literature, the term
"physical world" may need some redefinition. UFO abductees have found their
world stretched and distorted in a way that defies modern science. Testimony
from abductees now includes levitation, paralysis, telepathy, and startling
visions. To ignore these reports is to ignore the vast amount of evidence that
seems to be mounting. To accept these reports blindly, however, is to accept
data whose source is testimony from hypnosis, vague memories, and spontaneous
recall. Are abductees really levitating out of their beds at night, floating up
to a hovering UFO, and being subjected to physical examinations? Perhaps this
question can be answered by looking closer at
abductee's
testimony. Recently, Budd Hopkin's and Whitley Strieber's works have strongly
promoted the notion of physical abductions as a norm for UFO
contact
with humans. However, from a recently published
article in UFO Magazine (Vol 4, Num 4), Ann Druffel has offered a new
perspective on the abduction phenomena. This perspective alters the focus of an
abduction from something physical to something within the mind. Ann Druffel, in
her book "The Tujunga Canyon Contacts" tells of hypnotic regression of a
particular abductee named Emily who "learned that if
she could
manage to move even one toe or finger, the paralysis broke and the creatures
vanished." The article goes on to report that Emily could use mental effort to
wake her roommate and also break the abduction paralysis. In another case Ms.
Druffel notes that the abductee was able to break out of the "contact" by making
a sound or
mantra within herself. Breaking out of the alleged
abduction by shear force of will is just one clue of its non-physical nature.
Are there others? Looking at the varied testimony of abductees, one gets the
sense of the lack of coincidence from report to report. One person stated that
she was transported through her apartment wall. While others feel the abductors
take them "by hand" into waiting UFO's. Whitley Strieber, in his book
"Transformation", writes about his attempts at astral travel and the similarity
of that experience to his abductions. He also notes the strangeness factor of
abduction reports from his article in UFO Magazine (Vol 4, Num 2). Strieber
writes, "Of the 690 narratives sent to me by Communion and Transformation
readers, only a few appear to support these present theories of abduction. The
vast majority instead describe perceptions and experiences far stranger than any
reported by mainstream abduction researchers." Another UFO researcher, Richard
Grossinger, writes of the inability of contactees to distinguish between the
concrete or real and the psychic or hallucinatory. He suggests that we may be
dealing with both levels of reality thereby creating the current paradox of
conflicting abduction testimonies.
Before the "Communion"
and "Intruders" phenomenon, astrophysicist and UFO researcher Jacques Vallee
cautioned the conception of UFO's as being something truly physical. Vallee's
position is that individual and social psychological manipulation of UFO
contactees may not be extraterrestrial at all but encounters with
another
reality. He suggests that the intelligence community
world-wide is probably "in the dark" about most aspects of the UFO phenomena. On
the MJ-12 document he writes, "Given the names on the list of MJ-12 scientists,
however, it seems to me their work could have had an entirely different
orientation, having to do with psychological
warfare. I
scratched the surface of that issue in "Messengers of Deception", and I got
burned because the UFO research community was not ready to even consider that
side of the problem". Now that the verdict is out on the MJ-12 documents with
Bill Moore's revelation of planted information, Dr. Vallee's comments seem much
more potent. In his book "Dimensions", Dr. Vallee strongly emphasises the
psychological nature of UFO encounters. His research has shown that
historically, UFO encounters have been perceived to be the common myths of the
time period such as the miracle at Fatima, Portugal in 1917. "The events at
Fatima involve luminous spheres, lights with
strange
colours, a feeling of 'heat waves'--all physical characteristics commonly
associated with UFOs...They also encompass prophecy and a loss of ordinary
consciousness on the part of witnesses--what we have called the psychic
component of UFO sightings" (p 174). Dr. Vallee even implies that much of human
history may have been shaped by the psychological effects of UFO encounters and
that the shape may have a purpose. Extraterrestrial or not, it seems that
abductions by UFOs are much
more psychological in
nature than physical. Yet the common belief is in physical contact! Is this what
we are meant to believe?
Taken from a transcript.
Can you
describe your abduction experience and include such information as whendid you
first become aware of the encounter and how many times has this happenedto you.
Shirley, I had been trying to make up my mind since 82 to have
regression
when we started have some sightings in 1983, the
fear and emotional feelings got
worse. I walked straight
up to Budd and he looked at my name tag and said you're
the girl Dan
Wright has been telling me about. Under regression the story
came
out. I was 9 years old. My mother shot at them and
the shot woke me up. (with a
22). The beings told me I
had to come with them. When they took me through the
living room,
I could see my mother. kneeling at the window, and she was
frozen
with the gun to her shoulder. This was in Arkansas
on a 500 acre cotton plantation. They floated me across the living room and the
door was closed, it never opened. We went through wall and all. I remember going
up the ramp but didn't remember entering. My next memory was sitting on a table
affair in a circular room. Very cold and very frightened. I was put through a
physical examination. They took me back and tucked me in; my mother was still at
the window. They were 3.5 to 4 ft tall. Very soft grey colour which looked
almost white. Large black round eyes. Very large head. No ears. Two little holes
for a nose. A slit for a mouth. Their skin was
marshmellowy.
Please describe the black helicopter experience and
also phone tapping and being followed that we heard about and have you done an
FOIA for info on a file about you with FBI NSA, etc?
Shirley, No
we have not done an FOIA yet. We suspect NSA involved and
have
been told that by a man from the military. He says
they fly that type of
helicopter. I understand
details of some of our helicopter experiences are in
the uploaded
article in the library here. When we had our sightings
(UFO
sightings) in 83 around our property, we saw as many
as 16 at one time buzzing
around our property. Not
at the same time a UFO was visible.Two weeks ago on May
15, at 11 am
we were on our way to Lansing for the MUFON membership meeting.
I
looked out the window near Perry, MI, the black
Helicopter was pacing our car.
It stayed with us till
the arrival at the meeting. Then someone came in and
said
come out here there's a big black helicopter flying
around. We went out, George
got a picture, and one of
the members got 2 minutes on a video camera. The air
national
guard denied that it belonged to them. They say they have no
black
helicopter and do not operate at low altitude over
cities. There were as many as
3 over the area at one
time. Even DBC saw one of them. On the way George
blinked
his lights, and the copter blinked its lights at us,
when we were in the parking
lot. The blinking light
of the copter is on video.
Rick Dell'Aquilla, my
Co-Director is competing against you for
the Central States
Director. Rick is a lawyer who has never had an
abductee
experience or a sighting. I would like to ask, with
no dis-respect intended, if
this is a stunt to gain
support for your appointment.
Shirley, No way
Jose....George believes in his record speaking for itself.
We
had nothing to do with the helicopters appearing at
any time.
How much did your mother remember of the abduction
shooting, or anything?
(5,Shirley) My mother was
terrified. She is very religious and refuses to talk
much about
it. She does remember it, the shooting and all. They rest of
my
family also remembers. There were 8 of us children
at that time. Some of the
other children were
abducted, and they remember the incident. They have not
acknowledged
any abductions yet.
Jim Speiser of AZ
MUFON
<1> Any markings on the helicopter that stand
out in your mind.
<2> Are you aware
that Dan Wright is circulating a list of people that should
be
on the lookout for these copters (or am I talking
out of school)?
Shirley, Yes there were specific markings on the
left side. A white circle
with a black circle
inside the white circle. We do not talk up that
markings
order to allow us to compare with other reports. So
please don't spread that
around much. Regarding
the question of the list, we are aware of that.
Ted, did the
being speak or communicate anything vocal or were there any sounds at
all.
Shirley, Yes they communicated
telepathically.
Ted, Did they say anything verbally or was it all
telepathic?
Shirley, It was all
telepathic.
DON, I just signed in, and wanted to ask about your
suspicions concerning tapped telephones, etc. Have you been able to have your
lines swept by the phone co. or perhaps private security firms? Also have you
had any problems with mail, or any other reason to suspect you are under
surveillance? If you think that it may be from fed. government, the FOIA will
enable you to find out if there are any files on you, and what they
contain.
Shirley, Yes we believe our phone is tapped and I
understand there are some
details of it in the
uploaded TXT in the library. We have been in touch with
MI
Bell, but they won't cooperate we suspect they have
a court order. We have not
contacted a private firm
to help us detect the tap. I think an FOIA would be
joke. We
suspect all the black helicopter activity is just a means of telling
us
they have us under
surveillance.
Don, I have been a policeman for over ten years and
in order to have
a court order, you would
have to be suspected of a crime or a national security
threat. Also
it is mighty expensive to operate a helicopter on an hourly
basis
if it was the feds, I think they would find a less
expensive way to transmit
you that message. Have
you had any contact with any federal agencies, or have
they
contacted you?
Shirley, We have had no contact with the goverment
directly. Since when does the
govt worry about nickels
and dimes? The government actually considers MUFON...
a national
security risk. Thus we may fall under that category, and
possibly
because we work with
abductees.
DBC, I understand you had a mysterious pregnancy
when you were 17
the pregnancy terminated
after 3 months without any explanation can you tell us
more about
that abduction?
Shirley, I was in Florida at the time. They abducted
me and impregnated me
clinically (I didn't know
it until later under hypnosis). Then they came back
(now in
Arkansas) and apparently took the foetus I definitely was
pregnant
because I had been to the doctor and no trace was
left. The doctor couldn't
understand what happened,
because I didn't abort.
DBC, There have been
example told by Budd Hopkins of subjects seeing a childlater on that may have
been the result of the foetus development. Have you
ever
experienced this type of
encounter?
Shirley Yes, when the baby was very very small and
also on several other
occasions. The child had
very small features very pale skin. Red hair, very
wispy. He
has very blue eyes. A blue you cannot really describe.
DBW, After
people get involved in these type of incidents, they
usually tend
to go towards different positions of faith. Have you been drawn
to
crystals, the bible, or some other form of
seem-religious or religious
realm.....And a follow
up?
Shirley, Like MUFON policy, I'm strictly a nuts and
bolts person on this
subject. The Bible has
always been a part of my life, and I'm definitely not
into
crystals. I am not into past lives, channelling, and other
paranormal
activities. Strictly nuts and
bolts.
Drax, Shirley, Will you and George be at Lincoln and
if so, will you bring
the copter video? And how
can we confirm that the US Govt. considers MUFON a
security
risk?
Shirley, Regarding the Lincoln conference, does a
cat a have a tail?
Shirley, Yes, we will
bring the video of the helicopter and an audio tape
from the
regression-related incident....
Phil, Regarding the GOV
as considering MUFON a security risk....
Shirley, why else would
they tap phones, tamper with mail and harass us with
helicopters
etc. By the way our mail is frequently delivered open and
sloppily
taped shut. And some letters never arrive at their
destination. For example, I
sent Don Ware a copy of
some signs and symbols that I wrote during a period of
"sleep". And
he never received it. I also sent a copy of it to someone else,
and
they never received it.
Drax, If I
may just suggest its just possible that whoever is doing this
is
not connected with the govt. there may be "higher
authorities" at work. Just a
theory.
Gerry, Drax's theory has to be considered always but
I was going to say that
the blinking light
exchange when they could see you videotaping which means
you
would likely show it at a conference means we ALL
are being put on notice that
they or somebody is
interested in us. Also about the child did you, Shirley,
see
the drawing in Intruders and would you say there was
resemblance to the child
you
saw?
Shirley, I have not seen the drawing in Intruders.
Budd gave me the book, but
I have not read it or
others like it in order not to contaminate the case
However, I
have made drawings long before the book came out and I'm told
the
drawings resemble those in the book also last year
at the MUFON conf. in DC,
without thinking Budd
showed me some drawings. And I burst into tears.
Gerry, The
blinking light would have been done by the pilot on the spur
of
the moment and may not itself indicate any policy or
higher intent but the
general visibility of all
those helicopters still makes me think it is a message
to all of
us. Wise of you not to look at Budd's book yet.
Shirley,
Another reason I have not read the book is that Kathy Davis
(of
Intruders) and I became very close friends and I'm
not ready to deal totally
with what happened to
her. We have never discussed our individual cases when
we
get together.
DON, Shirley, during any
of these experiences have you ever received any
explanation
of "WHY" I mean, why the genetic experiments and perhaps why
are
they here? Anything?
Shirley, I
can't answer that. I was told something, but I'd prefer not
to
say.
DON, What was the last
part, ran off the screen
Shirley, prefer not to
say.
DON, WHY
Shirley, There are things
we have to keep secret so we can compare to other
cases. And
we don't want other people picking up the same story. As for
example
Budd Hopkins always holds certain things back in
order to validate information
coming from other
cases.
DON, Yes. Ok Shirley, for years this is one of the
things that have split the
UFO fraternity, everyone
has a secret. Right now I am researching a paper
concerning
the aspects of the phenomenon that have proved both dangerous
and
deadly. Going back in the 40 years that this has
been investigated there have
been dozens and perhaps
hundreds that have been harmed or even died while being
involved
with this subject. Now a week after talking to Hopkins, and it
is
obvious that he does not believe that they are
harmful,. however this does not
seem to be the case. Now
this forum is for the exchanging of
information, and
hopefully the truth. If you have an insight as to what
you
believe may be behind this mystery, don't you think
you owe it to the forum and
MUFON to share
it?
Shirley, We guess like everyone else. They are in
control. We have NO
control. As to the
question of WHY I'll go this far. They told me that
they
needed our help so that they could breed love and
compassion into their race
they have no intention of
harming us. They have caused pain to people they have
abducted,
but when they were aware of the pain they eased it for
us.
Ted, Apparently they do not feel pain themselves?
Also What kind of self help
group are there? and
finally. Can I call you during the day this coming
week?
(5,Shirley) We have formed an abductee support group
in MI that meets monthly
yes you can call
anytime.
Two for the price of one
REPEATER IN TORONTO CE-1 REFUSES HYPNOSIS
by Lawrence Fenwick)
A close
encounter with two UFOs occurred in Toronto, Ont. Canada in the early morning
hours of March 11, 1988. This was less than 1/2 mile from Lake Ontario, one of
the Great Lakes of North America and in a major metropolitan urban area. One of
the observers, Deborah Theaker, later told investigators that this was only the
latest in a series of UFO events that had seemingly followed her around wherever
she lived in Canada. CUFORN was alerted to the report when Deborah and
friend
Darren Boyce called Metropolitan Toronto Police, who
referred them to Downsview Air Force Base. Staff Corporal McKay had CUFORN's
phone number and gave it to the couple who called us. Deborah, 25, is an actress
an scriptwriter for SCTV (Second
City Television), a
famous TV comedy show. She and Darren had just arrived back in Toronto from
Darren's native Australia, where they had just watched the Channel 7 special
about the Nullabor Plains CE-2 of January 20, 1988. Darren, an electrician, 24,
was a skeptic until the night in question. Flickering Lights, here is what
happened in Deborah's own words: "It was approximately 1:10 or 1:20am on Friday
morning that the incident occurred. I was watching television, sitting on the
sofa, when I noticed lights out of the corner of my eye. Something seemed
strange about it and so I looked out the window to my left which was uncovered
and gave a clear, unobstructed view. I saw a very large oblong object surrounded
by flickering lights. There were definitely red and white lights, but I'm not
sure whether there was another colour or not. There might have been blue lights
as well, but I'm not exactly certain. I am uncertain of the time, but I would
think that I saw it around 1:20 or 1:30 at the very latest. There was a large,
luminous "headlight" in the sky over the trees across the street to the right.
It was pulsing and I felt that it was communicating with the larger object. The
larger metallic object moved towards the light. But I don't remember seeing it
move there", Deborah said. Woke Up Friend I phoned my sister and she instructed
me to wake Darren up as he was asleep in the other room. We both looked out the
window at this point, I could no longer see the bright "headlight". I thought
that the object moved slowly behind the trees on the street opposite Coe Hill
Drive. It was either moving west or descending slowly. After a brief period of
time, we lost sight of the object. Darren suggested that we phone the police.
They arrived within approximately 20 minutes. It was just after 2:20am when they
knocked on our door. Curiously enough, Deborah had a dream the previous night
which she felt was a warning that "something was coming to get me". She called
her mother in Sidney, British Columbia, 2000 miles away, that night, and told
her "a UFO is coming to get me. Something Hovering, Darren described his part in
the observation: "Deborah woke me up shouting that there was a UFO outside the
window. I went and had a look and could see something hovering beyond the line
of houses across the street. While it was too dark to see the outline of the
object, it appeared to be pulsing. It slowly moved away
from
us to the west. All the lights were on all the time,
but each light would individually pulse bright. The pulse would take about one
second to complete one revolution. That night was a clear one, with no wind and
few stars visible in the glare of the city lights. There are high tension power
lines in the area. No sound was heard. The objects were about 20 degrees above
the horizon. In our interview with Deborah, she said she was "scared. I felt
like they were looking at me and I felt like I knew who they were and they were
coming back. Investigators Harry Tokarz and Joe Muskat did what the two police
officers had done on the night of the event -- they carefully looked at the area
where the UFOs were seen -- a small park and a children's playground. No traces
were found, nor was there any damage to the trees.
Muskat and
Tokarz personally investigated the case on March 12. The next day, Tokarz spoke
to Police Constable Wilkinson who had been summoned alond with Police Constable
Sonsini. The officer said Deborah was "hysterical but sensible." The officer
said a Staff Sargeant had gone to the area first, but on checking
police
records, there was no mention of any such prior
check by a Staff Sargeant.
Hearing Defect Deborah
recently had visited an audiologist who told her she had a congenital defect in
both ears. She cannot hear low frequency sounds. Yet she could recall no ear
problems in her past, except for the odd ear-ache. CUFORN investigators Tokarz
and Muskat discovered in their interview with Deborah that she is a "repeater".
She was born in Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan. Her father was Mayor of the town
of
Esterhazy in that Canadian province. Her mother was
a nurse. She has one younger brother, Kent and one sister, Shelley. Deborah said
that when she was three years old, she saw what she called then "the Easter
Bunny". She remembered its eyes as being bright but otherwise normal. That would
have been in 1966. At age seven, she and Shelley saw a circular object in their
home town. In 1976, at age 13, she did not menstruate for four months. She did
not go to her family doctor or tell her parents. She did tell CUFORN that at the
time, she felt "something was taken from me." She has what Darren says appears
to be a Caesarian birth scar, although she has never been pregnant. Looked Like
Beans She said, when she was 13, she woke up one morning feeling sore all over.
When she looked at her bed, she saw what looked like dried-up kidney beans
covering the bed of her brother who slept in the twin bed next to her. She
thought he had eaten some beans and had vomited in his sleep. He had not eaten
beans, however. She slept through the night and was not awakened by anything
that could ave caused the beans to appear. She said that one night when she was
at summer camp at Round Lake, Saskatchewan, she and other campers saw a
formation of UFOs. The camp was Camp O'Neill. She recalled one other camper,
Roger Keyes, and that the head of the camp, who was a Minister, also saw the
object. The minister said he would report the sighting to someone, but, as far
as Deborah can recall, no authorities were
ever notified about the
encounter. The year was 1978. We also found out that when Deborah lived in
Saskatoon, in 1982, she and her brother Kent observed a UFO on a summer night.
She recalled that she could not account for a period of time amounting to an
hour and a half. Not only is Deborah a repeater, but the element of
missing
time may mean that she was abducted. She has noticed
in the past three years or so, that she has a hollowed out cut or scoop mark on
her left shoulder. Fear Of Hypnosis
All these stories remain
just stories at this time, as, after some discussion with Tokarz, she got as far
as agreeing to visit our consultant in regressive hypnosis, Dr. David Gotlib.
And that is as far as it got, as after an interview with the
doctor,
Deborah said she was afraid to undergo hypnosis. She
said that an amateur hypnotist had unsuccessfully tried to hypnotize her years
ago. She used that and her fear of what she might find out as her reason for
declining to pursue regressive hypnosis. Hypnosis would give some scientific
credibility to CUFORN's investigation and could relieve her fear or the trauma
she may have undergone as a result of an abduction by humanoids. Unless she
changes her mind, we will never know for sure what happened to her over the
years.
ACCOUNT
No.2
GOVERNMENT COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR SEES UFO WITH
BLACK PIPES
HOVERING OUTSIDE HER 44TH FLOOR APT. WINDOW IN
MID-TOWN TORONTO
by Lawrence
Fenwick)
A lady whom
we will call "Shelley Wells" was watching television while laying in bed at 7pm
on Friday, March 18, 1988, when out of the corner of her eye she saw a strange
object hovering outsider her 44th floor apartment in the Thorncliffe Park area
of Toronto, Ontario, Canada. Interviewed by Joe Muskat and Harry Tokarz of
CUFORN, she described the object as a charcoal grey metallic device about 15-20
feet in diameter with black struts hanging from each end. She said she was
"astounded and ran to the window". The UFO seemingly reacted to her movement by
first moving slowly eastwards, then swiftly ascending to the clouds. She called
the two appendages "pipes" which were about five inches long. The UFO had no
seams and she could not hear any sound as her window was closed and there was no
balcony on that side of the building, so she could not go out to observe more
closely. She estimated the UFO was no more than ten feet from the window which
faces north. She estimated the total observation lasted 15 seconds. All her
neighbors were either away at the time or were elderly and no one else reported
seeing anything. Ms. Wells told us that it was dusk, overcast and cool. The UFO
had sharp edges. The area is near high tension power lines and a hydro-electric
substation. She waited two months before calling the police about the sighting.
They referred her to Downsview AFB who gave her CUFORN's number. Her disbelief
in what she saw made her wait to report the sighting. Shelley is a former Air
Canada stewardess and now works as Director of Communications for one of the
Ministries of the Ontario Government in Toronto. She is 43, and has a male
friend,
Lawrence Sherman, Jr., who is an architect former
U.S. Air Force officer who was based in the Pacific. Sherman's late father was
Chairman of the Joint Intelligence Staff at the Pentagon and a friend of the
late U.S. Air Force General NATHAN TWINING of MJ12. Colonel Lawrence Sherman,
Sr. was also the Director of U.S.A.F.
Intelligence for the
Pacific.
What got my attention was when we went camping this summer as we do every year. I noticed these freckles that are in perfect alignment on my son face. Two triangles one small and then in the same spot a larger one.
Well we were joking around an said oh maybe it is from the aliens. Well ha got all upset and started to cry. He cries easily to begin with but he had a fear look in his eyes. That is when I started to look up things that happened to people. A few years back I think in 1995. Well I had put my son to bed at his regular bedtime 8:00. I saw a flash an I thought it was maybe just lightening. Never really paid attention to it.
The next day he told my mom his grandmother all about the aliens that took him. He explained in major detail He saw a flash and they took him from the skylight in his room. He said he was in a ship and there were blue purple lights. He said there were lights everywhere. He said they put him on a table and he saw a big white light. He went to sleep and woke up on the couch. Mind you he was only 4 maybe 5. I know it sounds kinder weird and all. However when we my mom and I were joking about it this summer he really got terribly upset. I don't know what happened if it is he has and active imagination or what but....... well?????????Also the other day I was looking at the pictures of THE FACE ON MARS. Well I thought I saw footprints. Well my son walked in the room had no idea what I was looking at and he said mom it looks like a bunch of little footprints. That kinder made me think. Knowing that he did not know what I was looking at and saying that. Well some may think I am crazy but that is OK because it I believe there has got to be some life other than earth. I would like that chat with you if possible. I have been Arizona on my honey moon. I went riding in the superstition mountains. Since that time I feel something is calling me. I kept asking my brother in law who lives there about the Lights over Phoenix. He kept replying to me. We can not talk about that. Well while visiting friends, I jokingly asked a five year old boy about the lights. He pointed out to the sky and said they fly back and forth and they flash then they go away. This really blew my mind. I find this all very interesting and would like more info. Thank you for your time.
Date, 1977
Location, Waimata Valley NZ - I lived there on our family farm. Event
Circumstances, It Happened during a UFO flap that centred on Waimata Valley and
Gisborne at the same time UFO's were filmed from a plane over the South Island
of NZ. Main Event, I was a guest on a scout UFO and was taken into space for
urgent medical attention on a larger space ship when the operation in my nose
went wrong. We'd had UFO sightings reported for over 2 months along Waimata
Valley Road near our house So I decided to sleep with a torch and the next time
one flew over our house I'd get out my window with the torch and start
signalling it. There were two ET's in a window looking down at me. I could read their
telepathic conversation to each other, one was saying lets carry on, this is of
no interest and the other said to wait, this could be of interest. At this point
I was flashing the torch and waving at them like any excited kid and I thought
"yes - I've won them over". the one that said this might be of interest
immediately telepathically told me I had not won them over and next thing I
remember I'm in a corridor on the scout ship jumping up and down going it's
true! it's true! you are real and there were at least 2 Et's just standing there
looking at me trying to get a handle on the sight of an over excited teenage boy
in pyjamas going off in front of them. What was of interest to them was that I
could read their telepathic conversations to each other. I also learned they
have ways of telepathically talking one on one and ensuring on ET nearby can
listen on to the one on one chat.
Once I'd calmed down from hyperactive to just animated the tall one walked
asked me why I had been unsure if they were real and why was I out there
flashing my torch at them. I replied that we'd been told they weren't real and
others were saying if they were real they were here to harm humans. I said
they'd been over our house for the past few months and I was still fine so
obviously they were not here to hurt us so I decided to attract the attention of
the next one that flew over our house. The tall one asked who was saying they
were here to harm them and I said - the Americans said this all the time but I
stopped believing that when they'd been over our house for a few months and we
hadn't been harmed by this. the Tall one was not happy to hear that I'd been
told ET's were here to harm humans. The tall one told me they'd met humans and
had not received a friendly reaction from humans. Humans had not made them feel
welcome on Earth. I said well on behalf of humans they were welcome here. I
think the Tall one and short ones were trying not to telepathically laugh at a
human child welcoming them on behalf of humanity but I was so excited and I'd
blurted it out as I really wanted them to feel welcome. They told me the
Russians were just like us and that I had to like the Russians as well as the
Americans as we were all one species. This freaked me out and I had a stand up
argument with them saying the Russians were not our friends as they were
communists and if they were our friends why were they building so many more
weapons than they needed and the Tall one kept saying we ( communist or
capitalist) must get along as we were all the same. I just couldn't accept this
concept so we dropped the conversation and went to a room.
A some point they put me in a trance to keep me in one place while they went
to another room. I snapped myself out of the trance and went wandering around
the corridors. A little ET spotted me and was surprised as was the Tall ET but
the tall ET told the little ET I was safe so to let me look around. The little
ET followed me everywhere during this phase. Then my time for medicals began so
I went back to the room and got on the table/bed.
There the tall one told me that they had not been offered much co-operation
from Humans and it would like my assistance, by this time it was standing over a
bench in the corner of the room preparing some hand held instrument and I was
lying on my back on a body temperature metal or plastic table. I said I'd be
happy to help it, it could take off an arm if it wanted as long as it didn't
harm my ability ti think as that was important to me. It was touched by that
remark and laughed that it didn't need an arm but would do other things. It did
whatever it did then began to put a powered instrument up my nose. I said it
looked like it would hurt me and it said if I liked it would stop any pain and I
said yes please so it gave me the image of a moth crawling up my nostril while
the instrument went in. While the instrument was up there doing whatever it did
the ET dropped their guard and telepathically I picked this up so I seized the
moment and jerked my head back violently with the instrument still active deep
in my nostril. The ET was quick to stop the instrument but the damage had been
done, it had sliced me up wherever it was inside my nostrils. The ET asked " why
did you do that" and I said now you'll have to take me with you, you won't be
able to fix that in time. There was a mini conference with the ET's in a
corridor and The scout ship bolted to space. I was allowed out to watch as I
felt the motion and I was over the moon as I felt this meant I was going with
them to their planet. I saw the big ship as we approached it and was transferred
to it to be repaired. Sometime during the repairs I realised I was to be
returned to home and I was really upset by this so I tried to persuade them my
parents didn't love me and I really wanted to go with them. They said I wouldn't
live with them and wouldn't explain why I wouldn't then they showed me footage
of my mother panicking in the house as she'd gone to my bedroom and couldn't
find me. They used this to show me my story about not being loved by my parents
was not true as my mother was panicking so I had to be returned to her.
I accepted defeat and went back to the scout ship to be returned. I asked
them if they'd visit us and would they please come for dinner and meet my
family. The tall one asked if we would cook vegetarians and I said we had
vegetarians but they were not normal, we all ate meat. The Tall one was not
impressed with meat consumption. They said they would definitely be back.
They dropped me off in daylight just in time for me to go to school.
While wandering around the scout ship I'd pocketed a small item. I'd kept it
with me and the little ET knew I had it. The big ET one either didn't know or
pretended not to know that I had it. AS I was being let out the door of the
scout ship the little one said to stop me as I had an item of theirs. I was
asked to stop so I did, no force was used. There ware about 4 of them grouped
around me in the corridor and the tall one came over and said " have you got
anything" I said no an the tall one immediately flashed me a telepathic warning
that the others couldn't hear which said "this is important - hand it over" so I
conceded defeat and handed ti over and tried to justify it by saying " I had to
do it you know" then I was transferred back to my bedroom.
My father saw me being returned and wouldn't touch me until Mum made him. My
mother was in the house.
Unusual observations? Movements, sounds, lights, odours, etc Describe your location relative to the sighting Other people? Names, contact details 3" In late December 1978, air freight pilots reported seeing unusual bright
lights hovering over Kaikoura, N.Z. Two weeks later, in January 1979, the
mysterious lights returned and were videotaped by Australian and New Zealand TV
news agencies. Following the sightings, the Royal New Zealand Air Force (RZNAF),
the police and the Centre Observatory in Wellington cooperated in an
investigation, the results of which were stamped Top Secret and lodged in the
National Archives in Wellington. (I asked for abit more from I call him John for now, and here it is,
webmaster)
Here are answers for you based on experience I've had with the ET's which has
been ongoing.
The greys are sentient beings, wether they are synthetic or genetically
engineered or from unimproved DNA is unknown to me. What matters in space is an
excellent brain and a chassis capable of keeping the brain mobile/operational.
Synthetic beings, genetically engineered beings or unimproved DNA beings have an
excellent brain and a workable chassis so I would advise not trying to
categorise them on the basis of origins.
Each grey I've interacted with has their own personality, their own sense of
self, they are not under the control of any other being as they let the taller
guys know it when the taller guys got something wrong or they disagree with the
taller guys.
There may be a chain of command like there is in human corporations, it isn't
like a military chain of command as corporals don't talk back at sergeants yet
the grey's give attitude to the tall guys as well as work with them and share
jokes with them. That's how I understand their relationship from observed
behaviour over the years.
The taller guy in the waimata meeting was in command of medical procedures on
the scoutship. A grey may have been in command of the scoutship itself, the grey
was more concerned about safety on the scoutship that the tall ET. This could
indicate that the grey was responsible for the scout ship or that the grey felt
I was dangerous while the tall ET felt I was harmless so wasn't concerned about
any threat to the scoutship from my being loose on it.
As far as what they have in store for humans, they feel merging of
technologies is inevitable and some of them want it to happen ASAP, some feel we
are a bit too unreliable/untrustworthy and some don't feel the issue is
important enough to express an opinion, they're just here doing their job. Some
like conversing with me and others acknowledge my presence when they have to for
whatever reason then they carry on with what they are doing. None avoid me. I've
found it to be really comfortable in their presence as they are so ordinary in
how they relate with me.
There is an intelligence and education gap between me and the ET's. I have a
good university degree in business studies but they have it all over me in
brains and education. The ET's compensate for that and communicate as
efficiently with me as humans do. The only thing about their behaviour that does
not seem familiar to a human is that they think to you rather than talk to you
and you think back to them. Even that feels normal within a minute as it's so
easy to do.
I suspect if humans have long term exposure to ET's then an under-utilised
part of the human brain gets stimulated for telepathic communication. Hopefully
this will enable post contact humans to be telepathic too. This is only a
suspicion on my part, I've experienced no evidence supporting it that I would
bet money on but I'd advocate researching it. In a few months I'll try to get evidence to you of how the ET's go about
doing things. Apart from some scars and a circular Tattoo and ET did (as a
result of my giving it a hard time about me needing a memento it raised part of
my skin in a circle so it resembles a perfectly round crater - something human
medical technology can't do) I have no physical proof but there is a lot of
circumstantial evidence that is overwhelming it it's probability of having an ET
source.
If you wish to know more, please email me the webmaster and I passed on your
comments.
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